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intelligence to suggest that there may be -- if you're coordinator these types of attacks there is not one cell of al qaeda that can6qdo this so there has got to be enough information on the grapevine on the counter terrorism grapevine to suggest several operatives are ompting in union soon at particularly directed embassies and shall we say it's a warning. we went public on this that we are aware of this and maybe that will forestall any attack. >> ambassador, always a pleasure. thank you for coming in. the ordeal is over this morning for three cleveland women who spent 11 years in aerial castro's prison. now it's his turn to spend the rest of his life behind bars.
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michelle knight bravely faced him in court and she stands 4'3" but her tiny stature could not disguise her immense strength. >> i spent 11 years in hell. now your hell is just beginning. i will overcome all that happened but you have made hell's bridge burning. from this moment on, i will let you defy me. >> the two other victims sent family members to convey their emotions. the man who raped and tortured them claimed that until they -- claimed until they led him away that he is not a monster. he rarveled for 16 minutes in court about harmonious calm and three women who i said wanted to be with him. >> all that went on in the ho e
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house -- this about being forceful, that is totally wrong. there was times they would even ask me for sex. many times. and i learned that these girls -- [ inaudible ]. >> well, he didn't mention the 99 feet of chains police found in that house used to keep the women from escaping or the portable toilets he made them use that he rarely goed or how he made them wear a helmet when he raped them and forced them to play russian roulette. i want to bring a psychologist and lori burns works with troubled teams and advocate for missing children. when we saw aerial castro, i
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thought he was learing at michelle knight when she walked in. he is going off on this rant when she is in the room. you are one of few people in a situation like this. you were in court when your daughter's killer was being sentenced and he started to say horrible things. it looked like you were going to go after him. did that all come back yesterday? >> absolutely. it dragged me back to the moment 17 years ago when i did sit in a courtroom and listen to another pervert try to prove and justify the heinous crimes he committed against an innocent victim. indeed, i did get up and make a move for him because i thought he was trying to basically ruin my family and, at that point, the judge kicked me out of the courtroom and i think it's i illustrative yesterday castro should have been silenced and
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stopped at that moment when he looked at michelle knight. he had no right to speak and let alone turn and stare down that young woman. >> he rambled on for 16 minutes. here is a part of it. >> [ inaudible ] because we had a lot of -- going on in the home and if you seen the video, amanda -- a will prove. >> more a few people were upset he was allowed to continue to speak for that long of a period of time saying things like the sex was consensual, at times they wanted it. even though i know what the
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rules are, why can't they shut this guy up? what did you take away from what you heard yesterday? >> what we hear is this typical sociopathy that they engage in denial. he is so inconsistent saying i'm not a violent person. the sex was consensual. this is a typical sexual forehead t predator. >> it looked like the other girls' family members may have left the courtroom when he spoke but michelle knight stayed. i thought how does chef the ability to do that? why would she even want to listen to what he had to say? is this part of her healing process? >> yes, i believe so. i am tremendously inspired by michelle knight. i think she will be a inspired
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advocate for other kids. she hat power and courage to walk into this courtroom and face this man one-on-one, just amazing. >> and her determination to help other people who have gone through terrible things like she has and how important is it when you're trying to help people to be someone who has been there and understand? >> right. they say -- i think michelle knight is right there. >> i want to talk about michelle knight. all of these women. now the klass kids foundation has given her a help. she didn't have a place to go home to. tell us about that foundation and what you've done for her. >> well, yes. earlier this year, we started a fund called the klass family fund and to assist missing
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persons with their housing costs based on the very real premise when your child is kidnapped everything else can fall by the wayside and you find yourself in financial ruin in a couple of months. we wanted to help people specifically with housing needs and when we started to hear about michelle's story which is still unfold, we realize she was alone and didn't want any contact with her family for whatever reason and thought she would be a perfect recipient so we sent her a $6,000 grant to assist specifically with her housing costs. >> not 6,000, was it? >> oh -- >> it was more than that. >> sure, absolutely. it was an honor to be able to present this remarkable young woman with this small gift. >> i want to play another clip of michelle again talking specifically about aerial
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castro. >> as the think about the 11 years -- in on us, what was happening you were going to church every sunday, coming home to torture us. it will be so much easier. you don't deserve that. you deserve life in prison. i can forgive you, but i'll never forgot. i will prevail and help others that suffered at the hands of others. >> lori, we talk about how inspirational she was. i was absolutely just stunned by what she had to say and so deeply moved by it. having said that, based on your experience, what does she have to face and what kind of help is she going to need? >> all of these girls are going to need intense therapy. they are going to have traumatic stress disorder and trigger
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wrars to smells and sounds and temperature being in the baste and then again in the attic which is so hot. i think intense therapy, but also as michelle said in her statement, i'm looking forward to my brand-new life, i think it's got to be a parallel path of starting their brand-new life and just igniting all of their dreams, as well as an intensive path of therapy to start over again. >> of all the many stomach churning moments, i think that there were, as we heard aerial castro, when he talked about the 6-year-old daughter and how he gave her as normal of a life as she could and suggested that it was a loving home, i want to talk about this young girl, because -- well, i mean aerial castro is the father, the only father that she has ever known and amanda berry, part of the reason we learned she wasn't there is she wants time to be with her daughter and to tell her daughter in her own way in her own time how this all unfolded. what about that little girl?
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>> she was born into the world under very tragic circumstances. she probably witnessed a lot of violence and trauma and emotional and psychological abuse, not only of her mother but the other women in the house as well. so she has a high degree of exposure to an extreme traumatic stressor and she will need therapy and counseling and probably family therapy for the two of them to reconcile this past and this little girl is going to have to grow up learning about her father and that is going to be a very difficult path for her to walk. >> thanks to all of you. the one thing we will say is that all of these young women have talked about the support they have been given. obviously, emotional support. and as of tuesday, more than 1.3 million dollars has been donated to help these three brave women. so if you'd like to donate to the cleveland courage fund, head to the website e clevelandcourage.org.nf including the es and rx.
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the 162,000 jobs added came in below expectations. these new jobs numbers are out the same day that a quinnipiac university poll finds most americans 73% write the economy at not so good or poor. i want to bring in university of maryland economist peter mar isi and jim tankersley. good morning, guys. >> good morning. >> peters, let me ask you what make of these numbers and what do you think they say about the overall economy and where we are seeing the stock market at a record heine housing market reorganize back, the auto industry filing on our
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cylinders. where do you see the economy? >> well, you've just hit the high points of the economy, other than the oil boom in north dakota, but most of the economy is not doing very well in oil. the growth rate is less than 2% and it's reflected in very, very poor job numbers. remember, a lot of these jobs are part-time jobs and unemployment rate fell because people are leaving the labor force and sitting down sdourn d discouraged. >> the white house says more work to be done the new jobs numbers shows the economy is returning its recovery. that quinnipiac poll, by the way, finds 54% disapprove of the president's handling of the economy all voters say they trust the president to do a better job over republicans, 45% to 39%. where do you put these job numbers in terms of the big picture? >> agree with peter, these are numbers that show us an economy that is still not roverg nearly fast enough what most unemployed americans need. the white house is getting better but it's not getting better enough.
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this has been the story for years now. we just don't see nearly enough growth and nearly enough job growth to bring down the number of unemployed people still 11.5 million people in america right now want to find work and can't. >> how much of this is tied, do you think, to what has been going on in washington? i'm talking about the highly charged political nature of our congress. peter, you have been critical of the president's handling of the economy but you've also taken republicans to task as well. what needs to be done here? >> i think they need to get together and look at some of the structural problems that emerged during the bush years that have not yet been addressed such as the continuing to grow trade deficit with china and we are developing oil on shore, on private lands but we are not developing oil offshore in nearly as much as we could. we could probably be oil independent within five years if we chose to be. mr. obama has targeted a lot of places where regulation needs to be improved but he has done it
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in very expensive ways and ways that create other distortions. the large banks, for example, have consolidated and monopolized markets in smaller cities and so forth and businesses aren't getting the loans they need. i could go on but that is the general theme. >> peter didn't mention these, jim, but also some upcoming debates in washington that get a lot of attention. the debt ceiling and sequester. how do they fit in? >> it would be a disaster to let the country default on its debts right now. i think almost all economists agree on that and not what this economy could handle right now. it also would be a better thing if we did not have as much physical drag going on. clearly we are losing some employment, although not as much as initially feared because of government cutbacks and something the fed chairman ben bernanke has said a lot that the fiscal consolidations of the federal government right now are holding back the economy a little bit. >> all right. jim tankersley and peter moraci,
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publici publicity. the controversial issue of "rolling with zjokar tsarnaev on the cover. follow-up on a story we told you about earlier this week. the arkansas attorney general said legally for the clarkville to use teachers and staff to use them as guards. he said they would have to change the law if they want them armed but schools can contract with licensed professional security firms. right now in detroit, another hearing over the city's bankruptcy. among many issues today the judge is expected to set angraphy time line for hearings and deadlines and he will consider whether the city is even eligible to file for chapter nine protection. if you think capitol hill is crazy, check out what happened at parliament in taiwan. started as a debate and turned in an all out brawl over the construction of a power plant. lawmakers exchanged punches and threw water at each other. is that like cool down? director james cameron say histories avitar franchise, will
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add one more and make it a qu i quadriology. the original, by the way, the all-time box office champ. 760 million. sharp and pointed reaction from the obama administration after russia announced it granted temporary asylum to edward snowden. the move allows him to remain in russia at least a year. as a result the white house says relations with russia could suffer. >> we are extreme disappointed that the russian government would take this step, despite our very clear and lawful requests in public and in private to have mr. snowden expelled to the united states to face charges against him. >> the picture of snowden after
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he left the moscow airport where he had lived more than a month. joining me now is susan page and congressional reporters for "the washington post" ed o'keith. good to see you. >> good morning. >> as a result of this decision the president is holding up the possibility of canceling a meeting between he and putin in moscow next month. how frustrated is the white house right now? >> i think they are quite unhappy with the russian government in general and mr. putin in particular. but i think they still hold open the possibility of putting pressure on russia. mr. snowden only has a year's reprieve there in moscow so it is possible there could be a different change of tune by the russians whether that period is up. it's also possible that the president will meet with putin in st. petersburg at the g-20 summit and not just go to moscow for a more formal meeting for him. this is still up in the air.
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>> respondent menendez released this statement. chuck schumer of new york, scathing statement. russia has stabbed us in the back and each day that mr. snowden is allowed to roam free is another twist of the knife. what else are you hearing on the hill? >> disparaging russia which has been a fren-enemy is nothing new on chiapitol hill. remember, the debate on capitol hill is not only about whether or not snowden should come back. most people agree he probably should be in the u.s. custody but a broader debate what the nas should and should not be allowed to ed do. when they get back from recess in september and lay out the laws for the intelligence
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community again, expect this will be a really big debate. >> you're pointing out your colleagues at "the washington post" have a new article titled democratic divide over nsa could pose a problem for obama and talks about several democrats >> you have sort of more liberal democrats joining with more conservative republicans as we saw last week to raise concerns about the nsa and say they shouldn't be allowed to do these phone and internet tracking programs. you have those that are sort of, you know, more closely aligned with the intelligence community and work with it more often saying, no, this needs to continue but we are going to try to find some way to make sure that americans' privacy is protected. both the house and senate intelligence committees promise to do that and stop the votes and debate that has been going on ever since snowden made that revelation. >> susan, i want to circle back what ed said, the last couple of
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decades, russia has been our fre-enemy any way. what can the administration to at this particular time? >> the administration is not? a strong place when it comes to rush shall and snowden. the situation in syria were sdrefdoes he say tr-- distracied. we don't like the way moscow is close to the iranian regime. so the snowden affair is just one of a series of things that are irritants between the united states and russia and it's hard to see the issues on which there is much in accord. >> we also have heard, it's not exactly a chorus, ed, but a voice about possibly boycotting the olympics in soldiery. >> yeah. to date, lindsey graham is really the only one to have said that. senator schumer yesterday suggested that the president should not go to the g-20 at all
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in st. petersburg. saying the athletes allow to go. the last time we boycotted was in afghanistan. this time it's over one guy the u.s. government would like to get back. at this point, probably not going to see too many more people suggest that the olympics should be skipped by americans. >> we see how well that worked out for the president at the time. susan page and ed o'keefe, great to have you both. >> top brass from all five branches of the military say they are making progress when it comes to military sexual assaults. during a panel, officers said there are plans to prosecute more offenders, prevent retaliation and offer better counseling to victims. that plan is expected to be announced by secretary of defense chuck hagel soon. i want to bring in congressman jackie spear, a democrat from california and she has been leading the charge to do something about the problem of
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military sexual assault. good to see you, congresswoman. >> thank you, chris. >> when i see that, i don't want to be a nay sayer but it is something people particularly who are victims of sexual assault have said,b[bey that's what we keep hearing, it's getting better, we don't see anything. what do you think about what we are expected to hear from chuck hagel? >> the numbers speak for themselves and the fact that only 3,000 of the 26,000 victims of sexual assault or abuse actually report, and, of those, less than 200 actually see convictions is the problem. i'm glad to hear that their focus is less now on prevention and more focused on prosecution and conviction. but until we see the numbers, i am going to be one of those -- >> i know you've written a letter to the armed service committee chairman because you believe this needs to be taken out of the chain of command. i want to play what lieutenant general who is nominated to lead
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u.s. forces in south korea had to say earlier this week. >> i strongly believe that we shouldn't take the commander out of the process in terms of dealing with disciplinary issues, in particular in this case, sexual assault. in the military, the commander is central to all that we do. the commander, in fact, is held responsible for his unit. all that it does or fails to do. >> that is familiar. it's what we have heard from so many military commanders. what do you say to them? >> i say that you are held responsible for all of the rapes and sexual assaults that go on under your watch. and that is the problem. that's why we want to take it out of the chain of command so victims have a fair shot of getting justice. they get the services they need but that the predators that continue to hunt out prey in the military are shut down, kicked out, put in jail, and never seen from again. >> it does seem like as this debate goes on, there is kind of
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a parallel discussion going on in the senate. kristen gillibrand trying to do the same thing you are, take the prosecution of these crimes from the chain of command. the senate is very divided. this time, it's not not along party lines. how do you see this breaking down politically? >> we are seeing growing support among our republican colleagues on taking it out of the chain of command and that is the good news. on the house side, the letter i've written to the chair is to just get us to have a hearing on chain of command so that the issue can be aired on the house side. they have really shut down the opportunity for a robust discussion, debate, and exploration of the issue. and i'm hoping now, as we garner more support on the republican side in this letter, that we will see the chair take the action to hold a hearing on the issue. >> congresswoman jackie spear, thank you joining us. today's mixed jobs reports
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has wall street pulling back a bit after the dow and s&p reached highs yesterday. is this pull-back entirely related to the jobs report? >> it is. interesting to see this, especially after the markets hit all-time highs. the federal reserve said it will continue to plug money into the economy as its weakness is improved but i think many believe the economy was no longer this week. the stock market in response is down across the board. 162,000 jobs created in july far below forecast. may and june numbers were revised down. the unemployment rate did tick down to 7.4% largely because the work force or the number of people looking for jobs fell by 37,000 and, of course, we measure the number of unemployed as the number of people who are actively looking for jobs. the overwhelming disappointment in today's report conflicting with some overwhelmingly positive data that came out yesterday. you think you're on the mend and people take a pause and say
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maybe we are are not there yet. >> the social media hit shark nato is actually coming to the big screen tonight. >> we really try to get to the heart of the matter here, chris. >> thank you. >> for fans that haven't been able to get enough, which i know speaks to you and me as well, 200 regal entertainment movie theaters will be showing shark nato at mbt tonight. it was a bigger hit on social media than on screen but the continued buzz is bringing more viewers to the small screen. according to "variety" magazine a showing of the movie this week matched 2.1 million viewers and 50% more than its first showing on july 11 t. it's not going away. a sequel based in new york is in production for next year with this and shark week coming up and "the washington post" did a spread on the chances that you would be eaten by a shark, seriously, chris, it is the summer of the shark. definitely having its 15 minutes of fame.
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>> i have to say the clips are the most i've seen of this movie and now i feel culturally illiterate. is it tonight or tomorrow night? >> tomorrow night. >> cancel all plans tomorrow night. i'm not going to go "shark nato." gallon of gas is $3.62, average price. up 10 cents from a year ago. gas money.com cost how much it cost you to drive certain cars. mgc is the expensive is gmc. cadillac second and mercedes-benz third and cheapest car to drive is the toyota prius. cost 7.2 cents per mile. the most expensive? i don't know how to say this? it's out of my price range. how would i know how to
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remaining fighting forces commended his troops for their selfless work. >> if we just come out here and work hard, we will truly make a difference! and, today, this is the difference. this is part of history. the last regiment, we are going home! >> so in the next year, almost all u.s. ground troops come home after 12 years of fighting. join me now is marine colonel wentforth from afghanistan. good to see you, sir. i'm sure you know the numbers by heart. the u.s. military lost 2 tou 124 soldiers and more 19,000 troops injured and the war has cost more than a trillion dollars. when the last troops come home, do you believe that the u.s. mission in afghanistan will have been a success? >> well, i actually do. i hope this delay is not too annoying. but really i do. i believe in this mission and i believe what we have done out
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here. i think a stable afghanistan is really important to this region and i know what the marines have done out here has made a difference. you know, when i see these guys and where they started and where they are at today, able to secure their own area, their own homes, their own districts, that really makes a difference. so i believe at the end of the day, history will show that what we did out here was right thing to do. >> how ready do you assess that they are? the united nations recently reported the number of deaths in afghanistan is up the first half of 2013. are they really ready to take control of their own security without you? >> well, i will tell you any of those civilian deaths aren't at the hands of the afghan security forces. it is at the hands of a gutless ene ene
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enemy taliban. what has happened is the afghan national security forces are the ones that are fighting the people trying to hurt the locals. so if anything is going to happen, positively and it will be positive is the afghan national security forces protecting the civilians against the taliban. >> let me ask you, finally. i do appreciate people putting up with the delay from afghanistan. but it is complicated to wind down and to get out. what are the biggest challenges going forward beyond the troops themselves, all of the equipment, the cost of that, the logistics of that. >> well, actually, you know, i've been to iraq quite a few times and i was not where we were leaving and still in contact, still fighting. this has actually been a much more difficult deployment in many ways because what we are doing is to transition period. doesn't necessarily mean disengagement from the afghan
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national security forces. so we are engaged with the afghan national security forces, still engaged with the enemy but still getting gear and equipment back to the united states. i tell you, it's a daunting task. all of these marines out here really stepped up and made this happen. still holding your edge knowing there is an active enemy out there, but yet you're closing down bases and you're closing down fobs and 33,000 pieces of equipment that we sent home alone, it's an astronomical amount of work and i'm really proud of what the marines were able to do, mainly with their mindset and delegation. >> colonel sparky wentforth, thank you for taking the time to talk with us, to all of the marines there, safe home. it is friday so we are going to have fun with today's tweet of the day. jimmy fallon tweet out this link. music room, robin thicke singing blurred lines using grade school
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with everything happening with the embassies we talked about it earlier in the hour. middle east peace talks have resumed. today's "flashback friday" serves assess a reminder 11 years ago, hebrew university in israel was bombed and nine people died. here is my report from jerusalem. >> reporter: hello, i'm chris jansing. major tensions in the middle east and let mewy0 what is going on. first of all, put it in some
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contest. second bombing in jerusalem in as many day. one at hebrew university that killed seven people, including five americans. >> i'm just as angry as israel is right now. i'm furious.!memz innocent lives have been lost. however, through my fury, even though i am mad, i still believe peace is possible. >> reporter: and now a response has begun by israel. i sat down in a studio in israel with former prime minister benjamin netanyahu and i asked him does he believe americans were a target? >> hamas has targeted americans. it's target israels. it's targeted christians and jews. it so happens the hamas ideology is attacking israel precisely because in their view, we are an extension of america. they attack us because they see us as a part of you. it's not that they hate america because of israel. they hate israel because of america. >> in that same trip i also interviewed the cofounder of
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hamas and i write about that and that is going to be posted on on jansing.msnbc.com. that is going to wrap up this hour of jansing and co. thomas roberts is up next. >> i am a big supporter of your flash back fridays. such great work. no, no, no. the only thing we can talk about the hair transitions because you're an excellent reporter and you've never been bad. chris is never nervous and always on the top. >> thank you, thomas. next hour talk about kidnapping and abuse survivor michelle knight. what is normal for these kind of victims abuse now? what is their life going to be like as they try to get back to a new normal? remember wendy davis? you won't believe what some republicans want her to do.
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right now, this abbey vanity combo is a special buy. just $299. hi, everybody. i'm thomas roberts. an unusual move by the state department. sources telling nbc news a possible al qaeda threat is forcing it to close several u.s. embassies abroad on sunday. >> the department has been apprised of information that out of an abundance of caution and care for our employees and others who may be visiting our insulations, indicates we should institute these precautionary steps. >> of the 284 worldwide some of the places in fact, included major consulates in jordan and israel and egypt and iraq. these closings could go longer than sunday a

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